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	<title>Comments on: New Massachusetts unemployment insurance employer Web site crashes and burns upon launch</title>
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		<title>By: John Hondrogen</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hondrogen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the new QUEST system is a mess.  And this is 1 year into the new system.  The old system worked fine for paying employer taxes.  The new web site is horrible. Poor graphical interface, nonexistent help, no telephone support.  I don&#039;t know who designed the site, but you should fire them. My 16 year old could build a better site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the new QUEST system is a mess.  And this is 1 year into the new system.  The old system worked fine for paying employer taxes.  The new web site is horrible. Poor graphical interface, nonexistent help, no telephone support.  I don&#8217;t know who designed the site, but you should fire them. My 16 year old could build a better site.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so glad to hear I&#039;m not alone fighting with the Quest website.  
I do accounting work for a small company - less then 6 employees - and have spend endless hours on this usually small task.  
And now for the first quarter of  2010 we&#039;ve been charges 11% for unemployment - which I&#039;m sure is wrong.  It&#039;s always been close to 3% - Unbelievable! Do you think I can get it corrected?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so glad to hear I&#8217;m not alone fighting with the Quest website.<br />
I do accounting work for a small company &#8211; less then 6 employees &#8211; and have spend endless hours on this usually small task.<br />
And now for the first quarter of  2010 we&#8217;ve been charges 11% for unemployment &#8211; which I&#8217;m sure is wrong.  It&#8217;s always been close to 3% &#8211; Unbelievable! Do you think I can get it corrected?</p>
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		<title>By: Trish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just tried to going on DUA inputted username password, it doesn&#039;t take it.  There is no forgott password buttom no telephone number to call.  This is insane.  As a bookkeeper I have 20 clients that I file their payroll taxes, what was DUA thinking of.  Good thing I have someone in the DUA office that can help or transfer me to someone that knows something, hopefully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just tried to going on DUA inputted username password, it doesn&#8217;t take it.  There is no forgott password buttom no telephone number to call.  This is insane.  As a bookkeeper I have 20 clients that I file their payroll taxes, what was DUA thinking of.  Good thing I have someone in the DUA office that can help or transfer me to someone that knows something, hopefully.</p>
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		<title>By: jmh</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to be among good company...  I had begun to wonder if it was just me.  You gotta wonder who the program was designed by...  It has really been a debacle.  I work with this type of stuff all the time and usually can find my way around without too much difficulty but, every part of this from the time line, registration process on to the reporting was so unfriendly.  Made me wonder how folks who were unfamiliar with on-line web sites were managing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to be among good company&#8230;  I had begun to wonder if it was just me.  You gotta wonder who the program was designed by&#8230;  It has really been a debacle.  I work with this type of stuff all the time and usually can find my way around without too much difficulty but, every part of this from the time line, registration process on to the reporting was so unfriendly.  Made me wonder how folks who were unfamiliar with on-line web sites were managing.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I finally got all 124 employees on record into the QUEST system and supposedly filed, paid and completed the whole damned thing today.  I worked from 9:00 to 3:00 today with the telephone on speaker, waiting for them to pick up.  After an hour and a  half, picked up and started ringing.  No one picked it up on their end for over 40 minutes; they left it ringing (and so did I).  I finally called back and after another 40 minutes, someone disconnected me.  I called back and waited another hour and a half for someone to pick up.  When she did, I tried to explain that I copied their template, inserted my data, saved it as both a .txt and a .csv file and tried to upload.  Every time I was told all records were in fatal error.  She was less than helpful and when she tried to put me on hold, she disconnected me!!!

So, without the DUA&#039;s help, here is what I did and found to work:

1.  Copy their template and save it as a .csv on your computer.

2.  In their template, highlight the data cells they provide as examples and under FORMAT, CELLS, select &quot;Text&quot;.  Change all the cells to text before beginning anything else.  There&#039;s a reason; if you cut and paste Social Security numbers or any other data that begins with a zero, the zero will disappear.

3.  If you use Quickbooks or another program that allows you to export payroll data, export to a new worksheet.  You can cut and paste some of the data as needed, but make sure the zeros do not disappear.

4.  Following their template, enter your Employer ID (your DUA number, not your Federal EIN), etc., etc., until you have each employee complete.  Make sure under each month that a person worked there is either a 0 or a 1 to indicate they worked or not.

5.  Enter your payroll data, but when you get to the column where you are asked to enter number of hours worked in the quarter, YOU MUST ROUND UP.  QUEST will kick back any exact numbers (like 123.4 hours; you need to round it to 123 or it will not be accepted for that person).

6.  SAVE YOUR WORK!!!

7.  Do the file upload and, GOD willing, it will read the data and tell you if there are any errors.  The good thing here is that it tells you which line and what item is in error.  You can go back to your file, correct it and upload again.

Now, if the DUA had taken a couple simple steps, I would have been done last week.  

First, they should put a bold note next to the &quot;Manual&quot; data entry selection to tell you that no more than 100 employees can be entered that way.  &quot;For employers with 101 or more employees, you must select File Upload&quot;.

Second, the data template that we need to use should be clearly mentioned and linked when we choose &quot;delimited&quot; file upload.  Instead, it&#039;s a side-bar on a completely different web page.  If you don&#039;t know it&#039;s there, you&#039;ll never think to look for it.

Third, the template should clearly state to make sure all cells are in text format (Format-Cells-text) and not just tell us to save it as .csv or .txt.  They should also clearly state that hours worked must be rounded up to a whole number.

I hope this all makes sense.  If any of these ideas show up on their web page in the near future, I want full credit emblazoned across the page, plus a consulting fee paid to me for becoming a mind-reader.

Now, in the event you think I&#039;m done, I&#039;m not.  Vengence is mine!!  I&#039;m going to call them again on Friday and stay on hold as long as it takes to tell them what assholes they are.  If they hang up, I&#039;m going to call back.  The war is on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I finally got all 124 employees on record into the QUEST system and supposedly filed, paid and completed the whole damned thing today.  I worked from 9:00 to 3:00 today with the telephone on speaker, waiting for them to pick up.  After an hour and a  half, picked up and started ringing.  No one picked it up on their end for over 40 minutes; they left it ringing (and so did I).  I finally called back and after another 40 minutes, someone disconnected me.  I called back and waited another hour and a half for someone to pick up.  When she did, I tried to explain that I copied their template, inserted my data, saved it as both a .txt and a .csv file and tried to upload.  Every time I was told all records were in fatal error.  She was less than helpful and when she tried to put me on hold, she disconnected me!!!</p>
<p>So, without the DUA&#8217;s help, here is what I did and found to work:</p>
<p>1.  Copy their template and save it as a .csv on your computer.</p>
<p>2.  In their template, highlight the data cells they provide as examples and under FORMAT, CELLS, select &#8220;Text&#8221;.  Change all the cells to text before beginning anything else.  There&#8217;s a reason; if you cut and paste Social Security numbers or any other data that begins with a zero, the zero will disappear.</p>
<p>3.  If you use Quickbooks or another program that allows you to export payroll data, export to a new worksheet.  You can cut and paste some of the data as needed, but make sure the zeros do not disappear.</p>
<p>4.  Following their template, enter your Employer ID (your DUA number, not your Federal EIN), etc., etc., until you have each employee complete.  Make sure under each month that a person worked there is either a 0 or a 1 to indicate they worked or not.</p>
<p>5.  Enter your payroll data, but when you get to the column where you are asked to enter number of hours worked in the quarter, YOU MUST ROUND UP.  QUEST will kick back any exact numbers (like 123.4 hours; you need to round it to 123 or it will not be accepted for that person).</p>
<p>6.  SAVE YOUR WORK!!!</p>
<p>7.  Do the file upload and, GOD willing, it will read the data and tell you if there are any errors.  The good thing here is that it tells you which line and what item is in error.  You can go back to your file, correct it and upload again.</p>
<p>Now, if the DUA had taken a couple simple steps, I would have been done last week.  </p>
<p>First, they should put a bold note next to the &#8220;Manual&#8221; data entry selection to tell you that no more than 100 employees can be entered that way.  &#8220;For employers with 101 or more employees, you must select File Upload&#8221;.</p>
<p>Second, the data template that we need to use should be clearly mentioned and linked when we choose &#8220;delimited&#8221; file upload.  Instead, it&#8217;s a side-bar on a completely different web page.  If you don&#8217;t know it&#8217;s there, you&#8217;ll never think to look for it.</p>
<p>Third, the template should clearly state to make sure all cells are in text format (Format-Cells-text) and not just tell us to save it as .csv or .txt.  They should also clearly state that hours worked must be rounded up to a whole number.</p>
<p>I hope this all makes sense.  If any of these ideas show up on their web page in the near future, I want full credit emblazoned across the page, plus a consulting fee paid to me for becoming a mind-reader.</p>
<p>Now, in the event you think I&#8217;m done, I&#8217;m not.  Vengence is mine!!  I&#8217;m going to call them again on Friday and stay on hold as long as it takes to tell them what assholes they are.  If they hang up, I&#8217;m going to call back.  The war is on!</p>
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		<title>By: jik</title>
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		<dc:creator>jik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I was getting those errors in the middle of a weekday.</description>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that this is one of the worst moves made by the DUA.  It looks like someone used 1985 technology to create this new Quest system.  The MAWebfile system is far superior and I do not know who had the presence of mind to fix what was not broken.  I can answer part of your problem about getting the messages that the system is unavailable or has been temporarily moved.  This new system is only available for log-in Monday - Friday 7am to 7pm, no nights, no weekends, no holidays.  If you are in the middle of a filing and 7pm hits, as I was the other night, you get booted out.  Very poor implementation and support for a mandatory filing system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that this is one of the worst moves made by the DUA.  It looks like someone used 1985 technology to create this new Quest system.  The MAWebfile system is far superior and I do not know who had the presence of mind to fix what was not broken.  I can answer part of your problem about getting the messages that the system is unavailable or has been temporarily moved.  This new system is only available for log-in Monday &#8211; Friday 7am to 7pm, no nights, no weekends, no holidays.  If you are in the middle of a filing and 7pm hits, as I was the other night, you get booted out.  Very poor implementation and support for a mandatory filing system.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It gets better; I finally found out how to &quot;convert&quot; my Excel spreadsheet into their .csv and .txt file formats, but every time I try to upload, it tells me every field is a fatal error and rejects my upload.

So, now not only can I not manually enter the data, my file upload is not accepted.  Give me a fax number and I&#039;ll send you the data and you can deal with it.  I&#039;m sick of this.  I have now been on hold for five days.  Today, from 9:00 to 12:00 (so far) no one has picked up.  Monday, when I did get a human, she was less than helpful.  Then, she reminds me the due date is the 16th!!  Like I care.  At this point, you&#039;ll take it when you straighten out this garbage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It gets better; I finally found out how to &#8220;convert&#8221; my Excel spreadsheet into their .csv and .txt file formats, but every time I try to upload, it tells me every field is a fatal error and rejects my upload.</p>
<p>So, now not only can I not manually enter the data, my file upload is not accepted.  Give me a fax number and I&#8217;ll send you the data and you can deal with it.  I&#8217;m sick of this.  I have now been on hold for five days.  Today, from 9:00 to 12:00 (so far) no one has picked up.  Monday, when I did get a human, she was less than helpful.  Then, she reminds me the due date is the 16th!!  Like I care.  At this point, you&#8217;ll take it when you straighten out this garbage.</p>
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		<title>By: Susanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never in my ebtire career have I seen such a mishandling of a new system. WHAT HAPPENED TO BETA TESTING!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never in my ebtire career have I seen such a mishandling of a new system. WHAT HAPPENED TO BETA TESTING!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The secretary of DUA  should be fired...The DOR version of this worked just fine...This was a waste of taxpayer money...maybe DUA should have spent programming money on an internal interface to the old DOR system..that would have been pretty seamless for them and required no change to the DOR&#039;;s webfile system</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The secretary of DUA  should be fired&#8230;The DOR version of this worked just fine&#8230;This was a waste of taxpayer money&#8230;maybe DUA should have spent programming money on an internal interface to the old DOR system..that would have been pretty seamless for them and required no change to the DOR&#8217;;s webfile system</p>
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